6 And when Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spoke with tongues, and prophesied. This is why our judgment should be, only on the fruits of the persons life; not on the power being displayed; and one of those fruits is their love, respect and reverence for the Lord in seeking to please Him by following His Instructions, not their idea of what it is to love Him, and expect Him to be pleased. Help us continue to be a voice for truth in the media by supporting CBN News for as little as $1. Firstly I can vouch for Torbens integrity also, having lived in Denmark and hearing good reports from folks that know him that I respect there. After all, isnt this the most important test of the spirit? This video does a VERY poor job showing that these people are doing. It boils down to: YOU DONT KNOW HOW GOD OPERATES AND YOU NEVER WILL. Our household is transformed, and being renewed daily by the Holy Spirit of Grace, by witch we are saved through faith in Jesus Christ our Lord. Wow.Amen Marie! The MOLECULES in Jesus body dis-assembled and went through a wall and then re-assembled. When man comes in and says look what we have done and is proud of that which has been done, then pride has entered in. You wrote: Paul was using both water and Spirit so many times in his epistles. Have you forgotten that Paul also said, For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. (1 Corinthians 1:17). I recall witnessing two of the greatest miracles where Seymour was greatly used by God. Thedude, did you not ask God to confirm the validity of the video when testing it ? This is Elijah against the the 450 prophets of baal. Tags: Baptism of the Holy SpiritKundaliniLast ReformationSpeaking in TonguesTorben Sndergaard. If you do not understand something it is better to be quiet because it is possible your fighting against God. Miss his blogs. Or has it being ongoing amongst everyday people since He was sent to indwell those whom God draws to Himself..? Isnt it true that we all usually cease arguing and just start being in awe and amazement and gratitude and joy when Jesus walks in us and does His wonderful works in us? A wooden staff that turns into a snake. I was only allowed to cry for a few minutes and God took the reins and pulled back my emotions and said, I have him. For me the thing that sets Torbin apart from the previous spiritual streams of the supernatural ( of which Bill Johnson is possibly the biggest a distributor of and that statement isnt evaluating Johnsons authenticity as a child of God- but just an objective fact) Nonetheless- the differene e between Torbin and this previous stream IS THAT TORBIN MOVES IN APIRITUAL POWER AND GIFTS WITHOUT DESCENDING INTO WIERDSVILLE!!!! God. I have no agenda other to please Him. Bethel practices fire tunnels to get drunk in the spirit. What I am understanding is that the right hand needs to forget what the left hand is doing, otherwise its a slippery slide away from simplicity down into spiritual harlotry, and turning the simple, holy things and gifts of God into a circus. A spokesman for Sndergaard's legal team told CBN News that during his three hours of testimony at the asylum hearing on December 13, Torben was able to share the words of Jesus and how he has seen people healed and delivered. It is sadly often, as Terri has said, that it is other Christians who have been disappointed or are afraid what others may think that pour cold water on the faith of others. Will you tithe if I pray for you and God gives you your arm back? However, I dont perceive any self motivation from Torben. It could be miracles, signs, and wonders. We have to go forward into the `true,` thing.`. All those people say they got healed and you call them liars, prove they are lying! common, ordinary, plain, usual, Related Words `And beginning with Moses & with all the prophets, He (Jesus) explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the scriptures.` (Luke 24: 27). His touch cleansed the leper, raised the dead, & restored the ear Peter had severed. This was a huge pitfall I saw with the Toronto Blessing when I was there. . But Yeshua calls His followers sheep. Further, He personally commissioned them to perform these miracles. Judge Yon Alberdi, an appointee of Obama Attorney General Eric Holder, ruled Sndergaard did not meet the requirements for asylum. You see, people have been so in the habit of putting Jesus in a class by Himself that they have failed to recognize that He has made provision for the same living Spirit of God that dwelt in His own life, and of which He Himself was a living manifestation, to inhabit your being and mine, just as the Spirit inhabited the being of Jesus or Paul. Torben Sondergaard Calls the Line of Fire from Prison Call in LIVE: (866) 348-7884 Yet is happy to come on here calling Torben a trickster. I believe they would prefer to keep the status quo going, so that they do not feel compelled to go out in the highways and biways themselves. 38 And now I say to you, keep away from these men and let them alone; for if this plan or this work is of men, it will come to nothing; 39 but if it is of God, you cannot overthrow itlest you even be found to fight against God.. Whats the point of us being baptised in water? Or, perhaps do we read in the OT and NT that we ARE NOT to mimic the heathen, or their ways? Where was the encouragement to `know Him more?`, I hope that as you read that misinformation that you will realise that it is not pointing us to our precious Lord, but just a confusing If that means I have to stand alone in the face of criticism from those who would call themselves followers of Jesus Christ, then so be it. Torben is the founder of The Last Reformation, a worldwide movement that seeks to return Christianity to the Book of Acts. Jesus shows us TRUE FAITH. If we start treating them as playthings and as idols, then we are as those trying to carry and play with fire with bare hands, and I have been a witness of this. As of about 2022, Lene is now 46 years old and born on April 5, 1976. Only God is holy and only God can and will do His holy works in and through us. 1) to fear, revere, be afraid Jesus teleported a whole BOAT FULL of Himself and the disciples across the sea. so-called information. Chas351 God has not changed, He still does miracles as signs following the gospel, and praise Him for it! For those who accuse us of being guilty for following and receiving the Holy Scriptures promise in Acts, then we guilty as charged. I just found out this is free today on Wigglesworth: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009W9CYUE/?tag=untagged-20. He even said that it doesnt really work in the church and that it is easier to believe for someone to be healed that you are never going to see again. And thank you Andrew and Torben. It very well could be true, but the video itself leaves many questions unanswered. Are you sure what the difference is between washing with water and washing by blood? Gods word teaches in 1 John 3 & 4 that the Holy Spirit resides in us. spread the word! The arm had been totally severed at the shoulder. What I understand is that the Lord desires to manifest His manifold wisdom to the powers and principalities, not to man so much. We are committed to delivering quality independent Christian journalism you can trust. Roger yes this has been going on perpetually but there are seasons in history where this ordinary supernatural normal hits the mainstream of the populace and other seasons where it wins and is obscured to small pockets. Thank you for your comment. Jesus was circumcised when he was 8 days old, and He was baptised by John the Baptist when He was 30. Former followers, former board members of the organisation, the press, other churches, and professionals have described his organisation, The Last Reformation, as extreme, dangerous, and a cult. The descent into normalizing WIERDSVILLE: Step 1. When my dad died, I lost it and wept, my emotions were running wild and I was broken. But some people who saw the video I still have a lot on my heart regarding TLR, the kickstarts, etc. There is no time like the present. Jhn 17:14 NASB I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I desire mercy not sacrifice. He explained that the Lord always required him to begin his ministry this way. We strive like Paul towards the prize of the High Calling in Christ Jesus. This shows the administrative authority of the empowered Son of Man. 2Corinth 13:1. How do you know it was not the Lords followers who called each other Christian since the text doesnt say???) Amen!!! I saw a lady several weeks later who looked like this lady but because this lady was a normal size I thought it might be her sister . (John said no one can have anything unless God gives it to him Jn3:27), Isaiah Saldivar is doing the same thing today>, http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAwakening209. Holy Spirit to death. Afterfastingfor 40 days Torben Sndergaard also believes that God revealed a self-help book for him,[28]saying I will give you one chapter each day.[29]. How different Jesus was from those sectarians who, like the Scribes and Pharisees, search sea and land to make a member of their group, only to make him twice as much the child of Hell as themselves (Matt. Thats not to say that God wont act through people. He can also STOP anytime He wants to. Share on email. Quail falling from the sky It is Christ that God would have us focus on & not trying to prove that it is all history. Friends are expressing dismay that a Danish man who works tirelessly spreading the gospel around the world has been arrested in America over charges of smuggling arms from Mexico into America. The worship leader sang (chanted actually) the words come, come, come over and over again. Jesus healed in the synagogue too. In 2011, he started the evangelical Christian movement known . The Holy Spirit does NOT base this on how HOLY a person is. Let us lead people to the Lord and let them be taught to reason out with the Lord and learn from Him, as He invites them to do so in the book of Isaiah. 3.and receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit in faith with the signs of tongues, casting out demons and healing the sick with the laying on of hands in faith. He said the hardest part is being separated from his wife and children. it is very doubtful that we have true Bible Christianity at all. Are you married? Marilyn. And to go forward into the `true,` is to `know Christ more,` as the Apostle Paul & Roger, here, have encouraged us to do. walked right on camera. Thats why we view every news story through the lens of faith. Torben believes in taking new Christians out on the street very quickly to pray for the sick and share the gospel. Those that would criticize any such testing should take a step back and realize there is nothing unbiblical about testing such spirits as long as it is done with the right intent. David repentance is exactly what Torben preaches. Perfect love casts out fear. a brief video (above) where Torben discusses the amazing things that He was (and is) one of Todd Bentleys biggest supporters. Jesus said Greater things would we do after He went to be with His father. But that needs to be tempered the way Jesus tempered it, otherwise there is the danger of being made into a king, and then all simplicity is lost. Gen 15:9-18 & Gen 17:9-14 Abraham and his Seed document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Minister Starker. How he heals is also a choice made by each believer because many think different on this also. His legal team told us they have filed an administrative request for release with ICE Detention officer Alan Young, who has the power to order Torben released from custody pending his asylum trial. You will be glad you did. eerie suggests an uneasy or fearful consciousness that mysterious and malign powers are at work . Stay bless. 1)God is Who HE SAID HE IS. People who obsess about theological nuances like demonic possession and baptism tend to produce the same division they are complaining about. The man ran upon the platform and around the room. Where do you get your identity? Nothing wrong with asking questions. God said for us to acknowledge him in all our ways and he will direct our paths. Torben Sondergaard is a self-proclaimed apostle and faith healer from Denmark who claims to receive revelations and visions directly from God. Such being the case, we must go to the Bible to determine God's will with regard to modern - day apostles. I too have been badly wounded and burned by previous fakes and deceptions- thats no excuse for cynicism. and also WITH the author of Hebrews. In fact, without them : of strange or extraordinary character : ODD, FANTASTIC, Antonyms Next, Sister Lankford told of the man with no arm. Repentance doesnt end at salvation. concerning the different parts of the body, in particular 1 Cor. . I didnt want it to be about me so I asked my young lady helper to lay hands on her and pray . 2) to fear, be afraid of one VOILA.hundreds of people come forward in 1 hour! The rest all succumbed in the desert because of their sins and disbelief. This is very subjective and there is absolutely no way for anyone watching the video to say with certainty if these healings are genuine or not, based on just watching the video. As a work? Rom 12:4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: Rom 12:5 So we, [being] many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. Elijah prayed ONE SENTENCE and fire instantly fell from God. Great stuff! It is always Christ plus something else (usually new age). Please check your information and try again or call us at 1-800-759-0700. All others are imitations as Scripture warns. 2.Be baptized(Water grave) into the death, burial & resurrection of Christ, to enter a covenant with God, through Jesus who sanctifies us with His Righteous Blood. To your credit, you were honest and admitted as such. Sndergaard has been held in a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) jail, the Baker County Facility, in MacClenny, Florida, since the arrest. Jesus is real and He wants to be your Lord and Savior. However, I watched the second video first. In the video at 1:13 min they say you get baptised (in water) FOR THE REMISSION OF YOUR SINS this is 100% not biblical. (Acts 19:4) Then said Paul,John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.. http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/orrel46.pdf. I perceive a very tiny bit of pride, but only the amount I would expect from any believer. You have no clue what biblical testing is, Do you obey Jesus and do all that He tells you to do? I said, You got him? [8] Lack of healing is caused by a lack of faith which is Word of Faith doctrine to the core. This The Last Reformation Torben speaks about is none other than the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) /Latter Rain Movement. other ditch on the far side of the road. The day is coming when nobody will question who is of God and who is not, because gross darkness will cover the earth and the people, but the glory of the Lord will be SEEN upon HIS people! The man removed the wooden leg and stood before Seymour standing on his one good leg. We dont consider Him to have been of weak faith. This is nothing but human sorcery at its worst . c) to reverence, venerate, to treat with deference or reverential obedience. A new Spirit-one that is more interested in making men thrilled and exhilaerated than in making men holy and heavenly minded and a new hope a hope in this world and in this age- where believers will rule and reign in this present dark age rather than the blessed hope the glorious appearing of The Lord Jesus Christ from heaven and the hope in the life to come which declares , if for this life only we have hope we of all men are to be most pitied .. May we look beyond the instrument and method that Almighty God will choose to use at His discretion and give Him the glory and recognition for His involvement in our individual lives..? He told CBN News the documentary ruined his reputation in Denmark. He healed people SOMETIMES He spoke to them of repentance OFTEN not. Most of the deceptions are mixtures, so that is something to keep in mind, but unless they turn around, as time goes on there is less and less of God and more and more of the enemy. 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