May 7, 2013 Mickey Lolich did not want to come to the Mets. It would appear that the one party who was jobbed in the deal was Lolich himself. They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. Shows included risque "girlie acts" with ladies who exposed their KNEES! As it is, he was traded to a team with a set of already existent aces- Seaver and Koosman. Lolich won't reveal his weight, but hints that he's in the two-hundred-thirty-something range, about 20 pounds over his playing weight. April 27, 2013 He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. John Bruce Mike B After one year in New York Lolich retired. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. March 5, 2006 Having this claim (in addition to his World Series MVP) is definitely worthy of the Hall of Fame. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. November 28, 2001 His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. Shickhaus Franks Dianna Jeanneh Jones Really? He also hit a home run in Game Two of the Series and outpitched Denny "31 Win" McClain in the Series. As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. His era of 3.22 is only .09% more than 20-game winner Carlton for the Phils. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. Staub a great fielder with a great arm? Shari God bless him wherever he is and good luck! Baseball burnt him out. Jay October 18, 2008 October 4, 2005 So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. Rusty has always been a fan favorite so if you're going to trade him it better be worth it, and to most of us Mets fans Lolich wasn't. He served up a home run, and my mother screamed "Lolich, you fat jerk, you stink!!!" We are going all the way!" September 25, 2013 September 12, 2002 Robert eddiek Mickey Lolich was born on September 12, 1940 in Portland, Oregon, USA. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. I had never heard my mother get so angry at a Mets player. He still knew how to pitch but had no run support to get him a winning record. April 24, 2003 I wish the Mets had a pitcher today with a 3.22 ERA. Ramblin' Pete To this day she still despises Mickey Lolich. Now I have the opportunity not to do what I disliked seeing.''. August 7, 2018 Other than some one saying he ate donuts rather than come back to NY, does anyone know the real reason why he didn't pitch in 77? In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. Raymond Malcuit Jr. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. Having this claim (in addition to his World Series MVP) is definitely worthy of the Hall of Fame. Bob P December 8, 2006 HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. Lolich - donuts Staub - steak. September 29, 2007 He was my dad's favorite Met, though, I think because here was a gut with a gut as big as my dad's who was out there flinging baseballs for money. Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. Mickey pitched to a poor 8-13 record but he also had a 3.22 ERA which is pretty damn good. (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. Michael As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. October 18, 2008 LA-Mets August 7, 2018 Lolich for Staub---it might be the fattest trade in major league history. Jeff started 30 of 35 games making 219 tackles, 7 interceptions and 4 fumble recoveries at Saginaw Valley State. Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. Rusty played another decade. Mickey was featured riding his motorcyle. I looked him up in The Sports Encyclopedia 2002 and they have 6' and 210 lbs. April 6, 2012 But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. Lolich may have been a great pitcher once, but by 1976 he was a has-been. May 8, 2003 Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. Rusty played another decade. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. March 22, 2005 Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. August 7, 2018 The history of the Mets, as it was reported when it happened! You have to remember that any ERA of 3.00 and over back in the 1970's was not a good stat. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. - Now for the trade itself. To the guy who scored the game when Lolich gave up two homers to the no name pitcher- big deal? January 12, 2011 An E.R.A of 3.22 in the mid 70's was still pretty respectable. Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! October 19, 2011 July 15, 2016 July 15, 2016 I was 7 years old, listening to the Mets on the radio in the car with my mother. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. September 25, 2013 Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. Al Yes, Mickey had some great years with the Tigers, no disrespect to him, but acquiring him at the cost of Rusty was one of the Mets' top three bonehead trades. I wish the Mets had a pitcher today with a 3.22 ERA. (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. Mickey Lolich so despised the Mets experience that he sat home and ate donuts for a year rather than play again in New York. December 20, 2019 Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. April 6, 2012 Mike B Bartolo Colon etc). Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. NYB Buff All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. April 23, 2003 Shickhaus Franks Mickey liked his doughnuts. End of Line Lolich was an outstanding pitcher who had just experienced an off season in Detroit. But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the support. Really? However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. 170 lbs.? This happened because M. Donald Grant, usurper/dictator of the New York Mets, was personally annoyed by Rusty Staub. That's more realistic but generous, I think! My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. Anybody remember how Rusty looked those last few years in New York? The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! December 20, 2019 As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. Jim Snedeker There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. Shickhaus Franks July 15, 2016 murphy A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. October 4, 2005 April 30, 2009 A few more years as the ace of the Tigers staff probably would have landed him in the Hall of Fame. Really? He was my dad's favorite Met, though, I think because here was a gut with a gut as big as my dad's who was out there flinging baseballs for money. support. Lolich was a fine pitcher. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. pete support. Rusty has always been a fan favorite so if you're going to trade him it better be worth it, and to most of us Mets fans Lolich wasn't. I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. May 7, 2013 Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. =Chuck= Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. NYB Buff October 13, 2008 October 19, 2011 GoMets2006 Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. murphy (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. Mickey Lolich was a great pitcher in the American League. In his first full season 1964, Mickey Lolich went 18-9 an ERA of 3.26. Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. We are going all the way!" Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Ramblin' Pete Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. In my opinion, there are only three candidates for worst trade in Mets history: Man, he was a big one. Raymond Malcuit Bob But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. October 18, 2008 Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. He started 45 games and completed 29. I looked him up in The Sports Encyclopedia 2002 and they have 6' and 210 lbs. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. (Original Caption) Lake Orion, Mich.: Mickey Lolich, hero of the 1968 World Series, that brought Detroit its last championship, is now a seccessful doughnut shop owner and baker. Later inserted into the rotation by manager Bob Scheffing, Mickey earned his first win May 28 in Los Angeles against the Angels, going the distance. December 13, 2007 April 6, 2012 As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. And yes, maybe Koosman had losing years in the late 70's but he had been a Met long enough with a winning record that the fans rooted for him. Jamey Bumbalo (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. After one year in New York Lolich retired. body would be a pretty slender person. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. So why did you try to destroy the guy? Although I'd rather have a hitter like Rusty, you have to admit, Mickey Lolich's ERA was a very respectable 3.22. The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. I had never heard my mother get so angry at a Mets player. I remember Lolich pitching some good ball for the Mets with absolutely NO run support. support. - Now for the trade itself. In my opinion, there are only three candidates for worst trade in Mets history:1) Staub for Lolich 2) the Ryan trade 3) the Seaver tradeI believe the Seaver trade was the worst, for obvious reasons. Joe Figliola Mickey liked his doughnuts. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. Hell, he kept his restaurant even after moving on to the Tigers, and still lives in the Big Apple. Yes, Mickey had some great years with the Tigers, no disrespect to him, but acquiring him at the cost of Rusty was one of the Mets' top three bonehead trades. TimesMachine is an exclusive benefit for home delivery and digital subscribers. Lolich's main purpose was to pitch and he couldn't even do that for us. Not that THAT did squat for the Mets! The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. pete His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. However, Mets management, in their infinite wisdom, wanted to trade Rusty Staub so badly, that they were willing to get anything in return, and actually had to go to great lengths to convince Lolich to come to the Mets. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. This has never happened before? Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. bob saunders April 6, 2012 As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. Jim Snedeker Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. Logan Swanson Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. Shickhaus Franks The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. Bartolo Colon etc). Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. Shickhaus Franks A few more years as the ace of the Tigers staff probably would have landed him in the Hall of Fame. April 23, 2003 December 13, 2007 I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. Scrappy (Note: others featured in that section were the Knicks' Toby Knight and his wife and Rangers enforcer Nick Fotiu and his very leggy wife and kids)I also had the unfortunate opportunity to score the game against the Phillies where pitcher Larry Christensen belted TWO home runs off Lolich on a hot Sunday afternoon. Hell, he kept his restaurant even after moving on to the Tigers, and still lives in the Big Apple. Rusty played another decade. All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. September 29, 2007 Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. September 25, 2013 I looked him up in The Sports Encyclopedia 2002 and they have 6' and 210 lbs. Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. Lolich struck out more American League hitters than any other lefty in the history of baseball- that includes Randy Johnson, etc. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. At Lolich's Donuts & Pastry shop, beside a wooded country highway, Mickey Lolich, the lefthander who beat the Cardinals three times in the 1968 World Series, wiped flour off his nose,. You can't be serious. However, Mets management, in their infinite wisdom, wanted to trade Rusty Staub so badly, that they were willing to get anything in return, and actually had to go to great lengths to convince Lolich to come to the Mets. April 24, 2003 A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. It would appear that the one party who was jobbed in the deal was Lolich himself. Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. The point is he made a bad team worse. I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Mickey loved his Harley. Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. bob saunders Showing Editorial results for mickey lolich. Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. August 7, 2002 Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. October 2, 2005 I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. But this one defied all logic from the beginning. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. Mr. Sparkle Mickey loved his Harley. He also hit a home run in Game Two of the Series and outpitched Denny "31 Win" McClain in the Series. May 7, 2013 Jamey Bumbalo Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. Man, those pitches were big ones. GoMets2006 But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? June 2, 2006 March 18, 2001 December 20, 2019 I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. June 2, 2006 I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. etc. Although Mick was not the same pitcher in NY that he was in Detroit, everyone seemed to like the guy. Jim Snedeker Rusty played another decade. How many did he own? Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. Mickey pitched to a poor 8-13 record but he also had a 3.22 ERA which is pretty damn good. - Now for the trade itself. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! pete Lolich struck out more American League hitters than any other lefty in the history of baseball- that includes Randy Johnson, etc. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. Mickey loved his Harley. And by the time he left Detroit, he was fatter than Lolich. Man, he was a big one. Dianna Jeanneh Jones Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. June 30, 2019 Robert Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. I find it odd that he didn't play in 1977. Al October 4, 2005 October 4, 2005 Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. November 19, 2002 He said he put it all together in 1971. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. Bartolo Colon etc). October 19, 2011 He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. You can't trade Rusty Staub without instantly improving team speed". Max Power Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. I remember Lolich pitching some good ball for the Mets with absolutely NO run support. Well, I've got a bad belly and a good arm," he says. The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. Maudlin, anecdotal sentiment at its best! God bless him wherever he is and good luck! The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. I still remember the Mets broadcast team trying to build him up in the eyes of the fans because he had been a Cy Young award winner. October 4, 2006 Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. 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